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Re: Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

...continue from previous post on covid prevention during Batam travel....

https://sbf-sg.social/showthread.php?p=...4#post20012614

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Don't let coronavirus defeat us cheongsters. We will defeat them.
Raising my hand to agree with you on that.

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Especially for healthy senior citizens, you can continue to Cheong with peace of mind if you follow these rules and you should be safe to Cheong anywhere you like
One small rule you might have miss out, thats "social distancing".

Simply avoid crowded places whenever possible. One might not get the virus from the booked girl/s but might probably get it from the masses in a shopping mall/crowded places. The ratio is individually myself against one individually girl (or 2) versus myself against a whole shopping mall of people. The risk factor becomes higher. This is what it is like during middle March 2020...

https://sbf-sg.social/showthread.php?p=...2#post19977962

Another thing i wish to add is "money", as in physical paper-like money and metal coins,hehehe...and i got that covered with my UV wallet/pouch which i might talk about on another post. I wouldnt risk using my credit card in a 3rd world country tho. The damage could well be more damaging "if" something goes terribly wrong. Contactless payment like Go-Pay, Grab-Pay etc can be a good choice tho.

Call me kiasu if you wish, but i am just working to cover myself, to be as safe as possible in ways i afford to do when i travel to Batam.

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The whole idea is to create a buffer between yourself and the virus at all times and so this is what you may do :-

(1) after check-in hotel, get a bottle of perfumed sanitising spray and spray all over your hotel room then leave your room for 30 minutes before re entering.

Subsequently don't allow anybody to enter your room except you and your cewek. Tell hotel no need to clean yr room except change towel and bedsheets.
This is almost exactly what i did in my last few trips to Batam. I armed myself with alcoholic sanitizing spray and start doing what i need to do, covering practically every corner, every part of the carpet, ceramic walls and even towels, bath tub, toilet bowl, walls, curtain etc.

The only thing i didnt follow suit to your suggestion is NOT changing bedsheets, towel and pillow case. I ask the housekeeping staffs to change it, and before they step in, i sanitize their hands, bedsheets/pillowcase they are about to lay on my bed and the trolleys,hehehe...even whats below the sheets and pillow case. The housekeeping staffs probably think i was crazy,hehehe...now, back to the good and bad i faced during then.

The pro :

Ok, i might have successful sanitized almost the whole room, at least 90% of it, including cupboards etc (but not the ceiling).

Thats my 1st day in the room.

The cons : (and the problems i faced)

1. I have to get a sanitizer where i could take it scent. Remember, this is alcohol, it gets to my nose and lung, i get a bit of a breathing issue. And especially so when i choose to turn off air-con and windows to sanitize. Not for those with sensitive nose.

2. My fingers...it went clamp,hehehe...imagine the amount of times my fingers hit the spring spray. But luckily, on flat surface, i use a couple of alcohol wipes. Just like i did for my 2 way ferry seats. i am glad i brought alcohol wipes. Places i cant reach or detest to reach (eg. around toilet bowl, basin sink etc), i spray.

3. I CANNOT smoke for a good 30 min plus, fearing i might just light up and go flammable,hehehe...the air is filled with flammable alcohol with my room windows all closed up and air-con turned off. The bath room air ventilator is off too.

4. I may have use too much alcohol and this can cost, hence in my later part of my Batam trips, i switch to aerosol spray bottle. Technically, it saves me twice the amount of money as i am using less and covering a bigger range of area further away.

https://sbf-sg.social/showthread.php?p=...y#post19987176


The humidifier you see in below link is what i would use for my sodium chloride water. And it is way cheaper than using alcohol sanitizing. Taiwan use it, Vietnam use it...they are some of the successful and more popular countries who manage to contain the virus in their countries with the least damages. I learn and took my knowledge from them.

https://sbf-sg.social/showthread.php?p=...y#post19953665

Alcohol sanitizing is good, it kills virus on touch, but it does have it con. As in, i am talking about just sanitizing the room.

Before i can try sodium chloride mist sanitizing in Batam, Singapore already lock down. So i am trying it at home and office,hehehe....Less than S$4 gives me 1 liter of sodium chloride water to clean the air around me (to be exact, its actually less than S$2).

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(2) Always bring along a mask and disposable plastic gloves when outside. Mask must always be cleaned and sanitised whenever reach hotel room. Always wash yr hands after touching something. The best is always put on disposable hand gloves whenever outside and throw away this disposable gloves whenever u reach yr room.

Each time you reach your room, you must change and wash all your clothings, laundry don't cost much, this slight inconvenience is worth. Bath too or at least wash yr hair, face and hands with soap each time you reach hotel room.
I have that same thought when i visit Batam during end February and during March 2020 too. But i find it a little hassle for the 1st initial usage.

At the beginning of my trip, i use those EA mask look-alike tag which i called them dog-tag which were made in Japan. A lot of news articles says its a stupid most waste money in the world. You wear it, virus stays a meter away from you etc. Its a bluff, according to those articles. But i got better use of it...i wear it when i am out. It does very little to no protection in open area tho.

But when i back inside my room, i put them inside my cupboard together with the clothes hung up i wore that day with the cupboard door closed. I believe it will kill the virus on my clothes if there are any. I wont be wearing those clothes for the next few hours, so its kind of auto-kill. I hung my disposable mask around it too.

To increase its virus-killing effect, i did a bit of modification. I add in this into the cupboard :


Take note that the above UV toy is only using UV LED which contains no mercury inside it (not a UVC lamp). So, it doesnt really emits ozone which will continue to sanitize after the UV lights has been turned off. This one's safer to use for a small area but took a longer time to do its work. However, i will need to spread my clothes in the closet evenly away each other to get the best effect.

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As for me, I don't throw away my disposable mask if it's not damage. I reuse it by sanitising the mask with boiling water.

(2) wear mask and disposable gloves the moment you are outside. When no people around you may pull down your mask to breath.

(3) when outside, avoid touching yr face, mouth and eyes at all cost. If you must touch, then throw away yr disposable gloves ,put on a new disposable glove and then touch. After finishing, put on a new disposable glove.
I always wear that Japanese sanitizing "dog tag" around my neck and whenever i took off my mask, i have this plastic hook which i could hang my mask very close to it. Yes, it should sanitize the mask while i have my puff,hehehe....

I dont wear gloves tho. Too troublesome. I have a pen-like-looking spray bottle, loaded it with ethanol alcohol sanitizer that contains chlorhexidine gluconate and glycerin, so the sanitizer continues to "kill" even while its dried up for hours. Then again, make sure to wash your hands clean before eating tho (it has a little powdery oily feel during the handwash period).

Recently there is one brand which was use by Singapore Changi Airport :

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...b-lift-buttons

Which claim to continue to kill for up to 3 months. What i read was if spray onto mask or an item, can last as many days up to a week even if you wash it daily. But this kind of thing needs to use a bit common sense. If spray on hands, definitely need to ash hands before eating, likewise for all chemicals. Then again, this thing from Changi airport is at least 8 times more expensive than most of my regular alcohol sanitizer, therefore i may be using in mainly on metallic doorknobs and my reusable cloth mask. Not on my hands nor body tho.

This SDST spray thing is just an option, but i have no plans to use this method much yet unless i can buy at lower price,hehehe...

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Originally Posted by sohbuckkong View Post
(4) similarly ask yr cewek to do the same thing, pay her extra 100,000 ruppiahs as tips.

(5) once you observe all the above, have no fear when you visit shopping centres, when you visit cewek booking house , restaurants or food courts.
Now, to summarize up :

For Batam hotel room, i considered 2 methods of sanitizing :

1. UV sanitizing. It cleans the room conveniently and thoroughly with UV lights and ozone (after immediately after UV lights is off). Covering many blind spots which i cannot reach (claim to be able to cross small barriers too). Its also the cheapest method.

2. I did look into ULV cold fogging whereby a spray gun is needed. This one once loaded with sodium chloride water, truly covers almost every blind spot. BUT if i am going to carry with me a gun-like thingy through custom, i would likely be inviting trouble from both Batam and Singapore side. Plus point would be, i feel its safer than using UVC lights.

(gun itself cost about S$50-S$60 or so)



However, i did replace the ULV cold fogging with some smaller humidifier loaded with Sodium chloride water, bringing fogging to a lower level but with similar effect. And pen-spray bottle loaded with either alcohol or sodium chloride water.

ULV cold fogging or UV lights, both methods were cheap. Anyone and everyone could do it. Cold fogging with alcohol sanitizer is going to cost way more of course (i choose not to use that). The rest would be how convenient it is for myself to execute the 2 ways to sanitize my hotel in Batam.

Now that my Batam hotel room settled, we can come to personal one person scale when i move out of my room :

1. Mask on, for sure. Mandatory by law, i guess.

2. Carry a pocket nano atomizer loaded with sodium chloride water.

(this is in pocket size, about twice smaller than a cigarette box)

It can be use to sanitize the air around me, as well as my hands whenever i touch anything (eg, door knobs, etc). It can work either way, touch 1st then sanitize or sanitize 1st then touch.

3. Wear a sodium dioxide emitting "dog-tag". Served as a tiny bit protection plus sanitize my mask when i took it out for a smoke in less conjested public places.

4. Keep a pen-spray loaded with alcohol sanitizing solution in my pocket, to sanitize my hands and anything before/after i touch it. Or in case i forget to do so, can also touch now, sanitize later.

5. Keep some individually-packed wet alcohol tissue wipes with me, for in case i am in a rush and need to clean things up on a larger scale. (i cannot clean the dining table/chairs with all those spraying toy,right?) Did that in my last few Batam trips during March 2020.

6. Since my smaller-scaled humidifier is portable and rechargeable (not the pocket-size atomizer but more of handheld size type), i might just bring it along with me and turn it on wherever i go walking around. It might scare people around me tho,hehehe...who wears a bottle of "smokes" around and walk around with it?

6. Have a UV wallet/pouch to keep physical money in my pocket,hehehe...cool stuffs, but just a bit bulky. Therefore while traveling in Batam by foot, i often carry either a waist pouch or mini haversack slinging around my shoulder. At least for now, it will be use to store my wipes, humidifier, UV wand and UV wallet (pen spray and nano atomizer will be in my pocket).

(my UV wallet,hehehe...)

In my last few Batam trips, i pass lots of face mask, lots of alcohol wipes and some spray bottles loaded with ethano alcohol to the girls. And believe me, tho there are alcohol sanitizer in massage shop reception counter, the girls wont have a chance to use it nor would they have the habit of using it. Giving them the wipes and spray bottle would be different,hehehe...something uniquely different from others, something outstanding among their peers. The likelihood of them using it would be higher, or at the least higher than going to their shop's reception to press the sanitizer to sanitize their hands.

This method above is called, looking into their cultural behavior. Example, if i am a Batam Newton disco person, asking my girl/s to wear a mask while she is dancing is near impossible. BUT!! What if i gave her one of this...

(it's a rechargeable light up face mask with 4 to 7 flashing mode)



I am almost sure she will be more than willing to put it on,hehehe...cost about 170k rupiah tho.

During this epidemic time,i have this mentality, when you are around me, and when you are safe, i will also be safer. When the girls are safe, then i can also be safer. That same theory works this way as well, when the girls are happy, i get better service too? And if service is rendered good later or if one choose to RTF when the girls are good. There will be rewards that are linked to the mask. A lighted charging USB cable...

(it should cost just a few S$)

Above said were just things i have done, plan to do and would do, when i am traveling to Batam in time to come.

Side note : A lot of things above were meant for other things in the market (eg,aerosol spray were actually made for salon hairdresser, and lighted-face shield were for beauty salon etc) but i have choose to modify it to be able to use it during this covid-19 epidemic.

I even made door sensor spray too, which i modify from -hose-watering plant/air cooling mist in my garden. Meaning if you step through my home door, sensor sense a presence and it stands spraying mist-like cold steam using sodium chloride water. I thinking to make a temperature sensor which should sound an alarm if a detected "presence" has a higher than normal human temperature.

(example only)

All these wont be talk about here, because i cannot bring those tools/equipment to Batam. Too much hassle but still, if i buy a home in Batam, i might just install them there. Thinking to run those toys on solar, and thats the challenge,hehehe...

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(hereon, will be just pure joke, please do NOT take me seriously)

Shhh....i plan to sell bro Blackpage this toy for 200k rupiah if i got the chance to see him in Batam again.


If he finds the protection isnt enough, i may throw him a face shield for another extra 200k rupiah as well. And no, not this one...


...but this one. It will light up when connected to a smart phone.


Protection from droplets, at the same time help with getting rid of wrinkles. Killing 2 birds with one stone,hehehe...

Now, we can talk about a night time in Batam discotheque/Pub/KTV. Safer and outstanding among the other nightlife patrons,hehehe...believe me, i cook up some goggle and an entire whole PPE suit for discotheque protection but that will come later when the timing is seemingly right.

Hehehe....i am just joking only. This whole idea of this D-PPE aka Discotheque-Personal Protective Gear were meant to impress the Batam girls who frequent night spots. I rarely visit those places, so this is mainly talk-only for me. Still, i find this whole idea...pretty good?
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