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Originally Posted by iicycold View Post
to me is wen ger say borrow, means borrow...i aso no care abt 300 dollar or 3000 dollar, but 'borrow' is means 'borrow'. Borrow means must return. Got few gers borrow frm me b4 too & i aso lent though not all of em i will lent. But i will ask ger hw they gng 2 pay me back. They usually wil say pay me onli wen able, so i suggest beter 2 pay by instalment...one mth 10 dollar, 30 mths finish liao lor....they aso say ok. Sm is pay 20-30 dollar a mth...lol
Actually, no one likes to borrow money from another but like yourself, i dont usually lent to someone as i rarely trust anyone. So if i were to lent someone money, i dont expect that one who borrows to return.

Borrow and return, its a cycle. To return or not to return tells a person's character too. So far i have only lent one Batam girl money and she returned, and that tells me she has got good character.

My own perspective.

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so far so good, they pay me finish liao & today i can dare put my head up here 2 tell ppl on internet sbf public forum btm tread, my gers who borrow frm me is no a Beggar , NOT a Scammers or Cheaters openly. Few hundred onli, i tink no sinkies will put in the eye & if they one day decide no return me then ok lor...i no more trust tat ger ani more but so far all gers i lent 2 got pay & sm more pay finish....lol...

i tink mayb due 2 my action, mani gers i knw nwday wen they go back kampung cum back btm tat time wil buy me small gifts frm their home twn & sm even cook 4 me 2 eat 2 shw their appreciation....lol...in other word, we aso built a small genuine friendship tere.
It is still money, we all have to work for it which is parts of our sweat and blood,hehehe...if can work why beg?

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i often believe do good thg mayb wn't get good return but do bad thgs, surely wil hv bad returns in one way or other ways. My ownself tinking is tat, fl is commercial deal & i shld go by the commercial way. i can pay 4 fl bills if they got face 2 open mouth 2 ask me 4 it but if they open mouth say borrow it means is borrow. Borrow means must return even though return or no return no mean much 2 me as they are jus small $ 2 me.

chines proverbs says, 有借有还上等人,有借无还下等人..meanin of Chinese words is got borrow got return is 'good' ppl, got borrow no return is 'no good' ppl. i tink like u 2 mayb it's karma...& no wonder i can find 'good' fl while others find 'no good' fl in btm. At least i giv em the chance 2 be 上等人 wich is 'good ppl' but others nvr giv em a chance 2 be one & yet aldy categolize em as cheats or scams.
Yes, i agreed with your point.

Someone from another culture, another country, another place of brought up borrowed from me, i didnt give them a chance to return or any suggested means to return, i come out to public to shout out that they "could be" scammers or cheats even tho i dont care of how little it "could have been" scams or cheated. I have already indirectly given them a not-very-good name,hehehe...

I would say it this way, the Batam girls try to borrow money from me, i didnt lent them a dime. I "gave" what they ask for to help them get through their urgent needs (since i dont expect them to return). Its a happy and willing thing, right? I fell for their KC-ing becos i cant stand the sight of girls in need and yet not helping them. I have a soft-heart,hehehe...and lack self-control.

Now, change the gender to Batam MEN o Batam Grandmothers instead of Batam girls...will my heart still be as soft as mentioned on above paragraph? Hehehe... hope you get my message.

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Originally Posted by iicycold View Post
i believe in all kind of trade, most indo ppl r good ppl, especially tose not veri rich ones.
Any country,any types of culture also will have good and bad people,hehehe...let alone girls in Batam. i could be a bad person the view of the girls too,hehehe...as much as i knew i am a stingy person in most the girls i have met in Batam.
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