[nono1973]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Lol.. usually booking joints girls don't limit the number of shots you can have. The last one that did it, new Berry, I heard the okt that taught the girls to do so kena sack already. As long as you don't piss off the girl, I think they won't go as far as limit your shots to 1/2/3.

I have heard of MM OKT limiting the number of shots to 3 for their clients before but i have not heard of Tamagotchi or Ah Meng from New Berry asking the girls to limit the number of shots tho. Maybe becos they knew me already but strangely,it has not occur to me during red hot months like CNY too (i went there on those dates prepared for the worst outcome). But i still hear a lot of after-2-to-3-shots runaway girls in both CNY 2015 and CNY 2016. MM girls being the most amazingly runaways whereas Indah2 comes in 2nd place. 3rd place of the most runaway during CNY 2015 was Happy 8 but after much complains,they (happy 8) seems to have improved on that point. Even MM has improved itself a little over time.

The only place that has known NOT to have improve itself was the Morena series of joint. And as for MM,i would say its a place NOT for the novice (luck do play an important part as well).

Originally Posted by Kaboon

I hav heard of the 3 shots rule to bangalah/indians,sm even got 2 shot limit in btm. They'll hav to ask themselves the reason y these rules were there for them. (disclaimer - i not sayin all bangalah/indiasn were bad cust,but to most wking girls,they were scare of them)

I believe most Batam cheongster would have heard of the girl's bad experience with the Sillypore's foreign workers. If 1 or 2 or maybe a few girls were to say the same thing,it could be a coincidence but when almost all the girls i knew says the same and shared their bad experience....well....and one of my recent girls who came from Bandung to work in Batam told me,it is mainly Indians/Bangladeshis in Batam they disliked/feared most. Some of girls i talked to have no complains on Indians/Bangladeshis from other parts of Indonesia,like Jakarta,Bali,Manado etc where they used to work. And why is it only happening in Batam?

Anyway,above were what i hearsay from the girls i met in Batam and had worked in those other parts of Indonesia before.

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Treat others how you want to be treated. They are fellow human beings. There may be reasons that pushed them into this trade, willingly or otherwise, they still deserve to be treated well. C'mon... You also want to enjoy the 18 hours or so that you gonna spend with them. Treat them well and you both win.

I agreed,18 hours can be an enjoyable time if one knows how to "get-along" with his companion. Its just like ourselves,we would all prefer to enjoy ourselves at work rather than go to work everyday 'hating' (or disliking) the things we are going to do at work.

Having said that,i will still send my girls back to the joint if i knew she is known to attempt to 'bully' me or take advantage of my 'good' or maybe if she's not to my liking. (remember? i am at most time a 1st/2nd timer traveling to Batam in the presence of the girls in my almost every Batam trip,hehehe...)

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Surely there are. Bro no-no had brought many noobs to Batam, I'm sure there are those that got the more than 3 shots.

Actually there are and quite a big handful of them have had more than 3 shots from booking joint girls when they were still considered a newbie. Too bad,its not the right thing to do for me to name them in public but I believe you have met up with quite a few of them. Some of them even wrote FRs in this thread with more than 3 shots as a newbie too. (side note to other readers,there is still a small difference between newbie and 1st timer on my above few sentences)

Having said the above,there are also a small quantity of them who only has 3 shots or lesser. On the average,out of 10 newbies WITH me,i would say 7.5 whose physique allows them to achieve more than 3 shots, would be able to get what they can do. And of the 2.5 out of 10 who couldnt get it (or those who didnt have a good time),at least half the time it is due to picking the 'wrong' girls and having the incorrect expectation. This is base on MY observation of the Batam Newbie group trip experience i have organized before.

My rules to MYSELF on the Batam games (trips) were simple :

1. Drop at least half of whatever expectation i have from any other places/countries in the world - base on my experience in organizing group trips,MANY has unrealistic expectation.

2. Knows what one is looking for and then seek from thereon.(every step is part of growing up ,there's no one step to 'heaven' when one is looking for 'heaven',applies for traveling all over the world too)

3. Be humble,be nice and avoid having that mentality that "i am your pay-master and you MUST serve me like my slave" attitude. (12 to 18 hours can be a long time if the girl are serving someone they 'hate',imagine i am in her shoe)

4. Always bargain down and do it with a smile. (argue and bargain is 2 different word with 2 different meaning,some will forget that)

5. I have only one dick,there are thousands of tight pussies in Batam for sale,hehehe...i have to control myself very hard NOT TO BE GREEDY,hehehe...

This is what i do and it has help me have a great time in Batam over the last 2 over years,there is definitely no obligation to follow what i do,hehehe...coming to 3 years,and i am still in Batam for more than a reason.

One of them is definitely for the Girls.

Originally Posted by tomcat007

.. I'm not like this in the past one. Bro nono is the one I learned a lot from. The girl who I tipped 300k and I stick with her for 9 months, said that I have a very selfish character and very egoistic. She's not wrong. She's only taking my business for the money.

I used to think that just because i tipped her well, she must do what I want and that's including not using her phone during my booking. Every session with her end up we both quarrelling. Lol..

Dont say that,everyone of us here who post and share constructively (informatively and positively) were learning from each other including me learning from you.

I wouldnt have known Tulip turned itself to Kupu Kupu if you didnt shared.

I wouldnt have known MM is a booking joint if bro Blackpage didnt shared

I wouldnt have known about Sri Kandy if bro BFOMF5 didnt shared

I wouldnt have known Dolly which later moved itself beside Shellina Salon and later evolved itself to Hawaii if bro Naka Timo didnt shared

I wouldnt have known Fortune Massage turned itself to JV Happy 8 massage and later moved itself opposite Prima Asia hotel if bro Newyorker didnt shared

There are many others whom i couldnt possibly name them all here (and i couldnt remember them all due to my poor memory,my sincere apologies) but all of them have one thing in common,they have all shared constructively aiming to keep each other well-informed on Batam and they all do it positively.

You can choose to try to destroy 'Rome' with an all out negativity or you can choose to flourish it positively. I believe I already picked my choice.